Flex Perspectives Podcast
April 17, 2023

From property to people: The changing relationship between Real Estate and HR | Phil Kirschner (McKinsey)

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Episode Summary

Phil Kirschner, Senior Expert and Associate Partner at McKinsey, has 20+ years of experience transforming complex and global operational processes. Passionate about workplace strategy and employee experience, Phil advises executive teams on post-pandemic work and workplace strategies.

In today's podcast, Rob and Phil dive into three crucial trends every real estate and people leader needs to tune into:

1. Aligning real estate with HR

2. Using better metrics to evaluate real estate

3. Rethinking office space needs in the age of remote work



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About the speakers

Guest: Phil Kirschner

Phil Kirschner has 20 years of experience persuading complex and global networks of stakeholders to transform their operational processes and behaviors. Phil is currently a Senior Expert and Associate Partner in the Real Estate and People & Organizational Performance practices at McKinsey & Company, where he advises executive leadership teams on future, post-pandemic work and workplace strategies. Previously at WeWork, JLL, and Credit Suisse, Phil is also a proud NYC native, father, volunteer, and soccer enthusiast.

Host: Rob Sadow

Rob Sadow is the Co-Founder & CEO at Scoop Technologies, developer of the Scoop Hybrid Work Platform and Flex Index. Rob was previously part of the leadership team at Bain & Company, the global management consulting firm. He studied Management, Legal Studies, and Business Ethics at the Wharton School at the University of Pennsylvania.

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